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I agree, but on my particular property, the riparian zone is the only area of erosion that needs work (other than pig spots which is much more of a game). In all honesty, the bank needs to be graded and have 2-3 check dams installed, but i have to decide if i think its worth violating federal law to implement that. My main thesis tho is that shrubs and forbes withing 5 ft of a stream bank are ideal

AC 5mo ago

Interesting that you think grading the stream bank would violate federal law. Not saying you're right or wrong, personally I don't care about federal law and we've contacted state EPA recently without any response so enforcement is laughable at best depending upon location.

Our conservation office did a public event on our farm years ago and recommended grading stream banks for areas on our farm and said cost sharing was available if we wanted to do that. We didn't care to incur costs for non revenue generating projects, as any business should, but were open to pursuing if they wanted a demo site--didn't end up happening.

The head of my township also recently texted me saying landowners are allowed to move dirt on their property without permit/approval 🤷 ... Holding on to that text 😏

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AU9913 5mo ago

Lol yeah i mean i will probably do it eventually anyways but with the amount of drainage thst goes into our creek, its jurisdiction is under the army co(r)ps. I dont think i would ever actually be reported, but because i approached nrcs about cost share I want to get some time between that and when i do it so i have some claim that i didn't do anything. Nrcs is a scam for new farmers imo. Its basically for existing farms to get revenue to fix their farms, not for new entrants to add those practices to their farms.