I mean the mainstream actually secure ones.

Signal, Threema, SimpleX, etc.

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I guess I need your definition of actually secure

Like a team of dedicated specialists that pour millions to billions into protocols that are high level encryption, or SimpleX where it's like a Terry Davis level Schizo dude.

Like I don't feel that Twitter, or Nostr DMs are ACTUALLY "secure" even if technically they are.

They just don't have that feeling of security.