ok!

- 17 was a totaly exaggeration for its humorous effect

- I think ethics are naturally embedded in every decision every human makes, so the argument Vitor makes I also disagree with, that you could avoid the ethical considerations, and so it's not what makes you and Vitor different.

- The fixed point of reference defining truth is the objective universe

- Atheists can argue withtout adopting a Christian ontology

- and the other things you said don't make enough sense for me to comment on.

I did a post on ethics just a few moments ago. It is my honest view of ethics. I might be wrong, but you could learn how I (and probably most atheists) see the situation differently than you do.