after few years in Bitcoin those big guests sound like they milking the one "groundbreaking idea" they had. The longer you listen to bitcoin podcasts the less interesting they sound. Not a fault of hosts or guests is just the same conversations. And just as once you left fiat podcasts you will also leave bitcoin podcasts (at least for some time) to dont start hating the thing that gave you so much fun. After a while the interesting ones are episodes where people talk about their life and people and leave bitcoin almost entirely. Tradfi bros larping as bitcoiners are most boring guests after you listen to them once or twice.