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Nostr scales.

If anyone of you have pointed questions or doubts that need answering in this regard, I'll be willing to help you understand.

I'm not willing to enter debates and arguments though, they are highly unproductive.

nostr:nevent1qqst9csg3a73kl7el736uvzv4p6wxxzjeu9q8vnkjgtgc2vglz62qdgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43z7q3qq7j6n23ylyn44xe26qlagtvvldk6n4l8wftdt0xfyqn9fh0es40sxpqqqqqqz09wvnz

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nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpqcgd35mxmy37vhkfcmjckk9dylguz6q8l67cj6h9m45tj5rx569cqry82a3 Ok. Say NOSTR grows to 2 billion users, about the size of most Meta owned platforms.

How do you ensure that all of them, without either forcing them to use a centralized list of trusted relays, or making them add so many relays the client can't handle it, can contact each other?

(The answer is, you don't. There's no way to do it with the relay system that's currently in place. You'll have to force a connection to a central relay.)

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unknown 1y ago

NO nostr relay could handle that traffic. Nostr would die

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ABH3PO 1y ago

Why are you here? 😂

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unknown 1y ago

Just because I criticize Nostr for it's flaws means I should not be here? Am I supposed to be super optimistic all the time and sniff my own farts?

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ABH3PO 1y ago

I'm kidding.

Relays don't need to centralize, gossip ensures were writing to our own relays, and we're reading from relays that our contacts are writing to. We don't all need to be on the same servers(a very fiat way of thinking about things).

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unknown 1y ago

Who is doing Gossip? No relays have changed. Relays need to be in Sync with one another somehow. Using many relays on a client is terrible and inefficient. Waste of bandwidth and compute power. Ditto solves most of Nostrs relay problems

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ABH3PO 1y ago

A lot of clients are, even amethyst is on Android. Fiatjaf did a test with An account that only writes to its own relay, if you can see it's posts, your client is doing some form of gossip.

I am not going to rebut to your claims though, aa I said, I'm not in the mood to argue.

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unknown 1y ago

That's good to know. But you still need to use many Relays at the client to even have a chance at seeing the post right?

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ABH3PO 1y ago

Nope when you add a contact you also store the relay your contacts are posting to, your client automatically fetches posts from those relays, you yourself don't need to add relays if all you want to do is to read posts from your contacts.

They're more for posting your events, loading global feeds and a few other things.

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ABH3PO 1y ago

Since you already know the answer there is no point in engaging.