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Yes the wallet fingerprinting stuff sounded kind of crap/BS. But if you asked them they'd just say "oh yes but our system is much more sophisticated than that; we can't tell you more because it's proprietary". And while *that* is BS, it's also true that the principle of multiplicative/compounding on fingerprinting is unreasonably powerful (see: browser fingerprinting etc.).

I strongly agree that LN is an exceptionally good tool for privacy despite its (imo heavily overblown) limitations. But my general comment was about the "move large amount through anon technique X" and that comment very much applies to LN too.

I guess your "Wasabi is a perfectly good wallet" was more aimed at the article than at my comment about it, but yeah, I agree that this is not evidence against Wasabi's utilty.

Hanshan 1w ago

isn't the problem with LN as a privacy tool that you would never know if it's privacy assurance was broken? not being an l1 it's not designed to function in the open and if a third party is accumulating information ( IE routing nodes are colluding ) you would never know.

strong privacy assurance is like bolt12, blinded paths and MPP still drastically reduce the UX and ability to move funds.

I agree it's good privacy at the moment. but isn't it just because nobody's looking?

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waxwing 1w ago 💬 1

I think you make a very fair point that the practical reality of privacy on LN today is a lot better than it would be under fully adversarial conditions. There are some glaring weaknesses as people like Matt Corallo will point out. But it will get better with increasing volume, and if we ever get ptlc. And being a *real* L2, warts and all, it has great properties for everyday small scale use.

Hanshan 1w ago

this is a good way to put it.