Can't clients enforce the moderation rules? For public groups, where everyone can see the posts, you don't actually need relay cooperation do you?

A NIP-29 aware relay could restrict event delivery to group members, and provide some privacy, as a value add, though. I'm not sure how inclined I am to trust such a relay to never leak, and since nostr events are non-repudiable, all it takes is one mole to ruin privacy.

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Initially the focus is on public groups, but I understand your concern in terms of private groups. We will tackle that after getting a good public experience.

I'm actually more interested in public groups too.

My question is just: Do you really need a NIP-29-aware relay at all, for public groups?

Yes I believe so because if you look at nip29 you can see it adds some of the basic building blocks like groups, group members, moderation kinds, etc. Seer aims to simply do group communication, so it’s much easier to just subscribe to these specific kinds without having sift through all the other stuff.