The mistake that both the vibecoder practitioners and the neo-luddites make is thinking that the primary use of AI in #vibecode is to write lines of code.
For best results, you bounce off the model to develop the design, structure and methodology.
The lines of code that come after are an afterthought.
I have been a commercial programmer last century, and I understand the saying;
"Weeks of coding can save you hours of planning"
I'm happy to bet, that is still the ethos of "real" #programmer
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