A blinded Bitcoin stacking service built on Cashu is straightforward to implement.

Instead of being able to connect your fiat deposit to your Bitcoin withdrawal, they issue ecash with which you withdraw your Bitcoin to a noncustodial wallet.

I'd be the first customer.

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

nostr:npub1alexvqqjlfk6fczkwmqwku3umka9wntrpc5qarz57v35favg7g9sp92xlt Can we get this? Plus buying via cash in mail?

So it’s basically just a hop in e-cash before going to Bitcoin withdrawal?

Yes, you can think of ecash as an intermediary money protocol layer that can be used to unlink two transaction, say a fiat payment and a BTC withdrawal.

Yeah. I like the idea. Hardest part is touching dirty fiat and all the regs that come along with it.

It would be a great privacy feature for someone like nostr:npub1yul83qxn35u607er3m7039t6rddj06qezfagfqlfw4qk5z5slrfqu8ncdu

Afaik they are a noncustodial p2p exchange, I would have to think about how it would fit into their model.

It would certainly fit the model of most regular exchanges out there.

Is it fully non custodial. I thought there was an escrow step…

Not sure I understand the flow right.

Can you elaborate?

You go to your exchange, you deposit fiat, then you buy BTC. They credit that BTC to your account.

You press a button to convert your balance to ecash (or automatically). You then initiate a withdrawal to your Bitcoin address using your ecash balance. The exchange sees where money is going, but they don't know it was you. The result is that they can't track where your Bitcoin goes (if the anon set is large enough).

Sounds like a no-brainer to me. No additional risk for the user. I would use this 100%.

Interesting idea.

Anyone know if the exchanges need end-to-end to adhere to KYC/AML?

This would be a great service for them to offer but they will always play safe legally.

But if they can’t do it, as an abstraction layer between the exchange and cold storage it would still be very useful!

Idk if exchanges are allowed to be blinded from their users.

An interesting alternative, start a liquid swap to bitcoin and withdraw to the liquid address from current exchanges that support

For exchanges that don't support liquid as yet, withdraw to a peg-in btc address and then swap/peg-out to a your btc address

... still custodial hop, and still needs an anonymity set (on Liquid), but exchanges get to maintain regulatory compliance

Nice idea, I just don't believe any regulated exchange is allowed to implement this.

How so?

They have to track the coins. Some are even banning coinjoins.

This is a very good idea

Could it be done by exchanges Melvin, or would it need to be an abstraction layer that you deposit BTC in to?

Check your DMs I sent you some cashu tokens!