Se fosse bom, não existiriam refugiados. Você vê refugiados fugindo de países bons ou os vê imigrando por X/Y motivos que eles pressupoem serem melhores para suas vidas?
I am not defending him. I am saying you, just like me, don't know him, and more importantly, his opposition enough to have an opinion. The numbers you mentioned could be false, but they mean nothing even if they are true. If you do not live there - you do not know. If I do not know you, I will not believe you whatever you say or film. For this reason I am pissed that nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m promotes filmers that he does not know. The only thing we can suspect (but we don't know for sure) is that Maduro is disliked by CIA and the official gov of USA. That would be a sign pro Maduro if that is true.
Also, when there are refugees it is a good sign, not a bad sign. It means that the strongest is in power (it is good, it is as it should be) and he allows those with a different opinion to leave. There were no refugees of USSR and NK. Those were/are truly evil.
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No man. But whatever I tell you, you will not believe me. That is good to not believe strangers, but just like you do not believe me, you should not believe the whatever other sources that now you do believe.
You just have to go and see things yourself. You have to go and see a number of different places where people do not generally emigrate from, and also a number of diferent places where people do emigrate from. Not just seeing the monuments as a tourist, but living there, understanding what locals like or don't and why.
You will be surprised how your opinion then will differ from the trends of migration.
I am Venezuelan. I don’t need anyone to tell me about my country. Btw you are replying to a Portuguese speaker, so I guess he is probably Brazilian or Portuguese, they have historical ties to Venezuelan people too. You are the one who is talking about a country far away from your reality.
OK. So you want Maduro to leave, and you want that other candidate to take presidency?
Do you live in Venezuela now and lived there since before Chavez?
I wants the results of the election to be respected. The votes were casted, they must accept they lost. Period. I am interested the intentions of your questions, those sound like the typical (outside Venezuela) maduro supporter questions. If that’s the case I am sorry to inform you I don’t fit in your prejudice card, I am not an oligarch (or son of..) from 4ta república. I was born in barlovento one of the poorest areas of Venezuela. Not I don’t live there anymore I am one of the 7.7 million who left in the last decade. We outside the country couldn’t vote but wasn’t necessary people who still there lost the fear and firmly voted against the regime. Now they don’t want to show the results, they are imprisoning the people who watched the votes and singed the official results. I can not do much out side my country. Sadly I have to lose my time trying to defend their honor against people putting doubts on them. It’s the less I can do for those who still in there and have some hope. I lost it years ago.
I am sorry to hear your story, but glad you managed to leave and pursue your dreams.
As I mentioned, the matter is too far away from me for me to be able to pick a side. I just hate when Jack picks a side for me (among his other followers), when he knows nothing just like I. That's the only reason I am engaged in this discussion.
I understand this. I don’t know about jack and how informed he could be. I understand there are geopolitical implications and people take sides according their circules, but even that there are people who suffer (in live) the disputes of those proxies/geopolitical instances. Thanks for your understanding and ability to bring along the conversation. 👍
So I have been investigating a little bit about Venezuela and Maduro and his various oppositions. I conclude as firmly as possible without visiting the country, that Maduro is the good guy and everything he has done as the ruler of the country is good and successful for the land and its people. He did not make the lives of Venezuelans worse, he protected them. Obviously, lives of those that choose the wrong side does not improve. That is why the wise choose the correct side.
And of course, for some it may be a matter of taste. If you strongly prefer Sony, Chrysler, Intel, Apple, BP, etc. over what you can create in your own country with your own allies for yourselves, then you can move to those other friends of yours that are in conflict with Venezuela. If they accept you, of course. Maduro allowed to leave, USA accepted, so these have no problem, it is even better for them - they moved closer to what they strongly prefer.