found a better one, anodised black is better https://www.amazon.es/-/pt/gp/product/B07KK9CP5Q/ref=ewc_pr_img_1
damn you, i want my titanium segment ring in my septum again
https://www.amazon.es/-/pt/dp/B07VQDG9ZD/ref=sr_1_6
super discreet 8mm diameter 14 gauge, my preferred exact thing, gonna get three in case the segment falls into a drain or something
found a better one, anodised black is better https://www.amazon.es/-/pt/gp/product/B07KK9CP5Q/ref=ewc_pr_img_1
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