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Thought more to reply again -

I agree with all of this, but Vitor has put the ball back in F-Droid's court and the pressure has to be on them now.

They're just letting Vitor make it look like they're anti-privacy or something, and it seems like nothing is happening until F-Droid takes this situation seriously enough to do something useful in response.

If Tor for Android isn't verifiably open source, that needs to be addressed. If Vitor Pamplona is blaming Tor for his own issues, that would also need to be addressed. Vitor has made that clear and F-Droid isn't doing anything.

x92vbb 4mo ago 💬 1

#Tor has its own repo on shipped with #F-Droid for a reason.

Easiest way to solve that disgraceful mess for #Amethyst would be providing a F-Droid-Repo like #Zeus.

Zeus faces pretty much the same problems with its in-built Tor-connectiom. So they built their own F-Droid repo.

Why is this not possible, nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9u2mk7fe ? Instead #Goolag #PlayStore is promoted. 😂🏆 You can't parody this any more...

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Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago 💬 10

Why would I spend any time building a centralized repo for fdroid when we have Zapstore and Obtainium? Every second working and maintaining these other things is a second less developing Amethyst.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 4mo ago

What about just not promoting play store on webpages or anything?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago 💬 2

We don't even talk about it. I always say zapstore first.

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 4mo ago

Oh, it looks like there's no Amethyst website? Maybe you should set up a simple landing page or ask the community to create one for you, so there's less likelihood of play store being used as the "official link"

If I search right now, the first result on Google is of course the play store, but also the second result is a nostrapps.com page that mainly links to play store

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago 💬 2

People don't search online when they want to install it. They search directly on the play store. There is nothing we can do to intercept that.

http://amethyst.social

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 4mo ago

So given the goal of promoting Play Store less, here's an amateurish HTML change I tried

https://linx.sny.sh/m2gnwq6o.txt

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago 💬 2

Yeah, but I think that is a fixed template from npub.pro

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 4mo ago

Then getting npub.pro to change that would be a good step

What do you think nostr:npub1l2hmray6wtvmhesww5uua8ty87nklw8x8nf8nt2p9zsx0g50c5dqzps6rs ?

x92vbb 3mo ago

- F-Droid repo has been excluded by Vitor, because he prefers to spend his precious time promoting spyware PlayStore

- outsourcing Tor library to make the build reproducable and regain trust of the users: very unlikely cos Vitor is resistant to advices and doesn't give a f...

- Conclusion:

#Amethyst is dead for me. What a disgrace.

Ricemoon 4mo ago

Zapstore is not compatible with my phone. So it's Obtainium or Play Store for me...

Technical Debt 4mo ago 💬 1

Wouldn’t it be easier to fix the tor build to make it reproducible? (if that is the problem)

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 4mo ago

More downstream benefits too

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Apparently many devs gave tried. It does look hard to make Tor and all their libs reproducible.

AU9913 4mo ago

Are the builds for amethyst already currently reproducable themselves?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Almost, the Tor libs break our reproducibility

AU9913 4mo ago

Well that sucks. Is there anyway to decouple? Any chance you have some links to this issue with the tor libs? Its something I'd like to read up on

AU9913 4mo ago

Waiy i think i just caught up on the issue. Is it basically because youre not buikding and signing your own versuon of the tor aar so the dependency on their signed version breaks it?

AU9913 3mo ago

I found the tor-android issue with reproducible builds ans submitted a pr. Hopefully i can get this fixed for you in the next month or so if the contributors monitor it.

Freedom Tech Co. 4mo ago

Have you considered Accrescent? This store is bundled with Graphene OS, could be a nice complement to Zap Store