20 years later she said he was but only his disciples saw it happen
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In 2045? I’d assume there would be more verifiable evidence by then.
Either way, if the story became powerful enough and the values he preached led to success and prosperity, I’m sure it would affect the next 2000 years at least.
The evidence is problematic. It is a deterrent of faith. As a result, the leaders of this new religion destroyed all evidence. You have to believe through experience and divine inspiration. Otherwise you’re a lost lamb.
I disagree, but let’s say that’s true for the sake of this discussion. Jesus was just a regular man, born naturally, who died on the cross and was not resurrected.
He’s still the most impactful person of the last two millennia, his teachings still are relevant and important parts of our culture, and the Christian tradition should be carried on.
I very much agree with this.
God bless you friend.
Bandwagon fallacy. Everyone watches porn so porn is good. Everyone likes Drake so he must have good music. Everyone takes vaccines so they must be safe and effective. I can go on and on.
Everyone does not watch porn, and porn is bad. Same for Drake and vaccines.
I’m trying to be polite and have a real discussion here but it’s pretty intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity is equivalent to porn, drake, and vaccines.
You can assess the goodness of something for yourself based on its history and its teachings. And you can even criticize the history of the Church while still acknowledging how culturally influential it was.
It’s hugely arrogant and stupid to assume everyone for two thousand years was just part of some “bandwagon fallacy”.
They would kill you for not believing that Jesus was magic.
Jesus was just a guy.
The Romans needed a reason to worship him so that their leaders could use it to manipulate them, so they made him magic.
But he was just a guy.
They copied half the mythology from what they knew about other religions.
Anyone can find enlightenment or become a spiritual teacher if they devote their life to it.
Doesn't require virgin birth or any other miracles to achieve.
Let’s grant your interpretation. Christianity still was a pillar of our culture for thousands of years, produced great good in society, has valuable teachings, and isn’t equivalent to watching pornography or listening to drake music.
Lol where did I say equivalent. Look up bandwagon fallacy. How are you going to call me intellectually dishonest when you are arguing without understanding the terminology I’m using?
Also what good are you talking about? The world literally went backwards when Christianity spread. Science was abandoned for religion. The earth became the center of the universe again. Holy wars left and right. Christians killing each other trying to maintain control over the church. You’re completely misinformed.
You’re putting words in my mouth. Didn’t say they were equivalent. I used those as an example of the bandwagon fallacy. Your argument was that Christianity is good because Jesus was so impactful. I’m arguing that other things are more impactful than Jesus.
More people watch porn than worship Jesus. So porn is more impactful than Jesus but that doesn’t mean it’s good.
In other words, how impactful something is does not mean it is good or right. Your argument is wrong.
Clearly was not just a man born naturally since his mother never got fucked.
Bandwagon fallacy. The most impactful musicians include cardi b and other retarded mumble rappers. That’s not proof that these are good musicians. And this is not a good argument for why we should continue following these teachings.