The minimum required to stop them and the maximum that their victims permit me to do.
If I depend on a victim's help in order to catch the perpetrator and if I use that to go beyond what the victim permits, then I would just be stealing the victims right to retribution for myself, and I would be just another person violating some kid's right.
And if I take more action against the perpetrator then what is necessary in order to prevent them from abusing more children, then I'd just be uniquely dependent on the continued existence of child abusers when furthering my goals.
As a Libertarian, the way I see it is that respecting the rights of everyone involved is absolutely essential for figuring out what kind of responses are appropriate, and what kinds of responses would make me into just another sick human being.
What about you? If a misguided child is being abused, would you ever look for ways to exploit and manipulate that child if it might let you get at the abuser?
And do you think that the possibility of torturing or obtaining retribution against abusers creates a kind of goodness that wouldn't exist in a world without abuse?
I would have the government find the perps, trial, and death.
Any other answer is wrong.
Can you name an issue with life in prison for child abuse? Is there something else you were hoping to extract out of the abuser?
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Government has the Epstein flight lists. How's that coming along?
When my grandmother was a little girl, one of her classmates was raped. Victim's father and uncles caught and castrated the perp. Perp didn't involve the government afterwards, and neither did they.
Vigilantism is a degenerate form of non-State justice, but still more trusted to deliver than government.
Bastiat's "The Law"
https://mises.org/library/book/law
Rothbard's "The Enterprise of Law":
https://annas-archive.org/search?q=The+enterprise+of+law
https://mises.org/library has many more papers on this topic.
Was there anything actually preventing the rapist from just raping more people anyway?
The rapist never pissed while standing up again, if you know what I mean.
The Epstein flight list members, though...
Doesn't stop a person from raping in every other way.
Truth, but then neither does prison...
Idk man, pretty hard to rape children in prison.
Also, don't remind me how terrible the state is at organizing prisons. I'm disappointed enough in the government as-is.
State bureaucrats organise prisons exactly as the want them to be.
And after a few years of acculturation at a similar yearly cost to a high-end university, the cons get let out again.
Sorry.
Prison is a great means to an end, if your desired end is cushy-jobs-for-sadists, and more and worse criminals.
Prisoners need the ability to choose between prisons that will take them. And the funding needs to follow the prisoner. Do this and I guaruntee that things would be very different.
I believe you, but we'll see snowflakes in hell before that happens.
As usual, real Capitalism has never been tried. (:
Capitalism is the antithesis of the State, sadly.
Ah, I don't even know what Capitalism is, I'm just saying things. My own political, economic, and moral beliefs do not have a name yet.
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I would say that the current state of capitalism is that it has been used and appropriated by the State to benefit itself rather than its people.
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Brilliant! No more prisons. Bring back banishment! We need a more federated world.
Which policy removes most jews ?
This strategy is tailor made for Jews. They can rack up their banishment counts by getting themselves kicked out of every single city and county across an entire continent.
You just know they've been getting bored.
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