I guess WoS stays the best option for newbies. Can’t expect the masses to run an LN node ..

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And then whoever gets curious can gradually climb up the geeky ladder of Phoenix -> Blixt -> own node.

I've read good things about Blixt that seem to align it with Bitcoins spirit rather well.

True. But then the inconvenient true seems to be this is custodial.

Like... yuck.

Kinda defeats the ethos of Bitcoin.

WoS is great UX and all but I don't like the custodial nature of this.

Not your keys, not your coins. 😶

I'm trying to learn as much as LN as I can and which wallets do what and what's under the good of each, without running my own node.

Totally with you on this!

Bitcoin Beach Wallet and Phoenix wallets too

Phoenix still needs you to have basic knowledge of how LN channels work, otherwise you can encounter an “unexpected”channel opening charge of 3k sats.

Another downside are fees. This is due to it’s noncustodial and trust minimised nature, yet I had to pay at least 1 sat for every zap. It’s not much, but it adds up quickly.

That’s why #[7] is my number one zapping tool.

Needless to say that one shouldn’t keep more than pocket money on custodial wallets.

So I believe a good setup (for mobile only experience) would be an open channel on Phoenix / Blixt , where you keep most of you LN sats and a one day worth of zaps on WoS. You can refill WoS from Phoenix on a daily basis paying minimum fees and use WoS for regular zaps paying virtually 0 fees. Moreover WoS supports NIP-57, which is a killer feature.

Bitcoin Beach Wallet is better in this way. Only phone number for registration. Good UX.

And lnbits.com (legend.lnbit.com) should be fine too

All roads are pointing to Blixt. Thanks man.

Also looking like submarine swaps might be decent cryptography and not custodial swapping atomicly pegged coins.

BTC was meant to all be on chain.

I struggle with the whole off chain eco system esp when it's custodial...

Interesting stuff.