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i think we both know that me and you are not looking for the same type of music, even if we can understand each other's music with some effort. your thread ( this thread ) should be about what you and your buddies are looking for, not about what i am looking for. i can always start my own thread to address my own interests even if nobody posts in it except me hehe. so don't worry about what my original question was - it doesn't matter.

that said, what i meant is new bands that also bring with them a new sound.

i listened to your Blood Incantation and 2019 is certainly new and i would even say it is pretty good music, but it doesn't sound new and it DOES NOT WANT to sound new, lest it might alienate listeners like you who are looking for a particular sound that they are used to.

so this thread ( your thread ) is really about "new acts that sound old" and it's a perfectly valid question to ask and i hope you get some good answers.

and i will ask my "new acts that sound new" question in a separate thread ...

Dissident Sound 2y ago

you're probably thinking - but if it sounds new, then it's not Metal anymore !

so AKSHULLY there has been research into this and basically Metal music is defined by "spiky" mathematics. it's the same as what defines gothic Architecture or the font in your screen name.

so you can bend the genre quite a bit and still be unmistakably metal so long as the "spiky" mathematics are preserved ...

this "spikiness" is associated with things like fear, pain, aggression and so on ... also darkness ...

the opposite of this would be the smoothness and curviness of pinup dolls, cherubs etc ... also pink color ...

well obviously smarter people than me would be able to say more on the subject - i haven't even studied music theory. my point is merely that i see "Metal" as a wide field, that also should keep widening. whereas i imagine you you see it as a niche genre that should stay that way.

personally i think the latest and most cutting edge sound in music is "crunchy" sound, but that of course isn't metal and i will have to find ( or create ) some other community to put it in ...

and like i said you guys are more passionate than me about metal so what you want to see here is more important than what i want.

on other hand i will rule "GalaxyBrainDance" with an Iron Fist.

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7fqx 2y ago

Lol I really don't mind how people answer. Just curious to see what is about. Contemporary that sounds new would be good, I imagine a lot does sound 'retro' tho, no expectations ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Dissident Sound 2y ago

here is an example of what i would have considered moderately fresh Metal 3 years ago when it came out ( both music videos by Tallah, sorry i don't know many newer bands as i said ):

https://youtu.be/D-IG09dfVvY?si=705S3Q-T9WmUaDjW

https://youtu.be/n4X0CG11Byw?si=RWfJbuW9OY0KiWeI

7fqx 2y ago

quite like this, it's p much new nu metal (?) to my ears anyway

Dissident Sound 2y ago

to me nu-metal was more its own new style around the turn of the century whereas this Tallah stuff is more like an eclectic mix of different Metal sub-genres that came before, with a touch of humor on top.

so it isn't necessarily bringing anything new to the table but recombines the stuff that came before in new ways.

one's range of innovation is somewhat limited when one has only guitars and drums to work with as opposed to electronic music where possibilities are limitless.

this is why i have been focusing on electronic and especially noise music, as those have the least constraints, but that doesn't mean i don't like Metal - it's just harder to innovate in that field.

7fqx 2y ago

Gnaw Their Tongues is a bit of dabbling in noise/metal/electronic, not particularly new, but you might like them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsxmdy-MMiI

SMS 2y ago

🎚️

Dissident Sound 2y ago

too ambient for my taste. i like dopamine music that more "kinetic" ( for lack of better word than ambient / atmospheric. should have attributes like rhythm, mass, speed ... ambient music doesn't have those things.

🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 2y ago

I'd actually say that metal is defined by the use of sine waves that have been compressed into square waves, as well as the use of modes that sound minor,

— Dorian, phrygian, minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor, etc, along with extensive use of tritones, major 4s and 5, often with missing thirds.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

you might be right - i am not knowledgeable enough to either confirm or deny this.

7fqx 2y ago

Out of curiosity, if you followed all of the above and applied it within eg a Computer Music sound, would that stil be metal?

I assume it was slightly tongue in cheek, but I'd like to hear that lol

Dissident Sound 2y ago

it would be industrial.

SMS 2y ago

Phenomenal possibilities.

SMS 2y ago

https://youtube.com/shorts/4gJfko54sPY?si=qcigXZUa_eeFkOeq

SMS 2y ago

Satisfying when the time has.

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