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In this point of view is true. But do not forget that this painter himself "realized" what he described in Mein Kampf. From the beginning to the end, until fall.

In contrast Marx died in 1883 and the "Great Socialist Revolution" was in 1917. The previous "try" was at 1905. So Marx and Engelsnever had any opportunity to "realize" that it is at the "Communist Manifesto".

And do not forget Rockefeller, who financed Lenin's idea and revolutiony aspirations (even Rockefeller financed Lenin in person too, he gave him a Rolls-Royce). The conclusion is that the money drives the world, as Rockefeller financed and in this way he indirectly supported the birth of the Sovietunion. Marx's and Engels' idea without Lenin's misinterpretation and (!) Rockefeller's money could never have existed and "perfectuated".

Loki 2y ago

I can go with that but I have seen some things that I think you may not be aware of that suggest that the tentacles of the blue and yellow family were involved.

I am no communist, but I get what people liked about Marx's ideas. I am no nazi, but I get how his words moved so many people.

It was actually part of how I got so interested in The Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya - that I had been pre-loaded by some vague reference to some campaign to attack a documentary artist as relates to his work on Atlantis, by a weak and crappy point that the Nazis were also investigating Atlantis.

The people of Atlantis were not the Aryans. But the resemblance is there. The emerging archeological evidence suggests that the oldest bones of WHITE people was in Morocco. Is this in any way really connected with Hitler and National Socialism?

I doubt it.

But read the Book of Enoch. The unmistakable references to people with pale white skin and red hair in it are there. This book was known to be familiar to the contemporaries of the 12 Apostles, as can be amply discovered if you read Enoch.

I could go on and on about this and I have barely scratched the surface in what I have learned but I'm convinced also.

But I do think there is some slimy things about Marx that you are not aware of. Even if they didn't achieve very much in their own time, that may not be because they were not favoured, but rather, that the time had to pass to inculcate people with the receptivity needed to continue to progress things until you reach the events of 1913 (the federal reserve) and 1917 (the bolshevik revolution).

There was more than a few things involved. The year 1865 is stuck in my mind, as is 1894. I may have those out by one or so, but both years were very important and as you know, the earlier one was contemporary to Marx.

I was raised Seventh Day Adventist, and for that cult, 1844 was also another year of importance. My uncle converted to Mormonism and the mormons, SDA and JW are also connected christian groups tied to early stages of the events that unfolded.

All of it is connected, but it is hard to find the strings when you depend entirely on hard documents. The spirit of it is clear, however, or the lack of spirit, maybe more accurate.

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ᴄʏʙᴇʀɢᴜʏ 👽 2y ago

Yes, a given chain of events leads to a given historical situation, this cannot be disputed. But this is always the case at every critical moment.

But as I wrote earlier I don't want to defend Marx. His theory concluded to that horrible regime in which I was forced to live.

The only thing I originally said that the GULAG was not Marx's idea and can not derived directly from it. Marx's communist society was an idea about a society without classes. But without classes nobody has any power over others therefore there is no possibility to raise interning camps. And as it follows from the idea of "classless" society - the commune. The name communism also came from the commune. In this type of society hierarchy ceases so such society turns to anarchy. This is a complete impossibility.

Lenin and Stalin did not do this, even they definitely did not want to do this. They wanted power over other people. This led amongst other things to the GULAG.

And regarding the topic of Enoch, who was the only one prophet who met God personally, I read about him and read his apochrical book.(Even one one of the companies I own a stake in has the name Enoch too after him).

But I think these topics are getting far from the original topic.