You realize the state can declare anything a “crime”, right? This is the problem.
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Yeah but…….some of it is LOL
What you wanna live in the purge mate or lord of the flies and eat each other? Go on then haha. Look I think it’s insane to jail some little girl who posted a video on Taylor swift on the grounds of it being Islamophobia or something but it’s also insane to think we human beings can live harmoniously without any form of regulation. Who can self regulate enough to be decent to each other? Haha no one!
Some of it should be is what I mean. What you want murder to be available? Good luck 👍 better get working out quick and 10 machetes and a machine gun lock up your grandma
And now are back to private property.
Where?? And why so bad?? 😂 
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All of your extreme examples of what could happen from online speech are violations of private property.
And….?
I really don’t think so, and anyway what you saying we need to each pay for our own individual personal firefighting team?? Come on don’t be silly there aren’t enough people in the world who want to do that
So what you’re saying, if a murderer breaks into your house you gonna call a plumber or something? Get your own totally free from any corruption hit squad you have to pay £100000s for? I really don’t see how private property or otherwise is helpful
All that just to make our way to the ole who will pay for roads/public services argument.
Uhhhh that’s not what I’m saying… I have no idea what you guys are saying now 🙃 I’m saying the riots in the uk, where people are committing crimes by attacking people or being violent in whatever ways, are dangerous to others whatever the fuck they are doing. If we have zero regulation the world becomes chaotic and humanity’s chance of survival would be bleak. You won’t have a world free from power hungry corrupt bastards then either
I think what our friend above is saying is what you are bringing up has nothing to do with speech.
Oh but you think all the propaganda for example preluding the Second World War served no purpose and Hitler absolutely did not manage to gain power by controlling what people believed with speech?
So who is allowed to talk? UK government approved groups and people only? This is the inherent contradiction with “some limits” that I tried to address early in this conversation. It is impossible to have partial free speech. It cannot exist.
Depends on what they want to say and should be open to discuss as I addressed earlier in the conversation. I don’t wish to continue the conversation though as now I’m busy
If there are individuals riling people up on the internet to start the Haindmaiden’s tale and kidnap all women to enslave, and then are actually trying to enact it quite frankly I’d like to see some police action to prevent or dare I say it???
Who determines what “riling up” is? This is just a circular argument that always comes back to some authority declaring something subjective a “crime”. You cannot have free speech under an arrangement where the state is determining what a non-violation of private property crime is.
Why do you keep going on about property?? I’m mostly talking about people. Jeeeezus people who have never been scared of the old conservative control or previously had any reason to be concerned about oppression just can’t get it let’s leave it there
I am a Jesus person, and conservative control is just as bad as secular control. Both are enforced by the state and lead to privation of one’s self; the ultimate private property.
Those are the “crimes”. Not free speech. How do you not get this?
I don’t think they are mate I was also talking about posting Taylor swift videos lol. This seems to have Tokyo drifted into something that sounds completely scrambled so I’m opting out
Yeah and the library on the road where I used to live was burned down in the UK, and I imagine without it being a crime more would have happened and spread and killed innocent people