Since karnage mentioned, I am also asked an question by a friend today: why the core developers of nostr are all over 30.

Me: sorry for being not good enough at programming that I can only be a user but not a programmer,:(

Ps: #[1]​ that’s why I said I really really wanna be 35 immediately 🤣 nostr:note1amtgder3grgu6sg6hng68ma77yphkzmtwclddfn2ltrrdzmdecjqhx38tg

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Oh I didn’t mean age, meant number of people.

Omg. Nostr cannot delet

GG

It is just I’m too shocked by my friend’s question and I keep thinking how to answer the whole day🤣

No worries. Regarding age, I think that’s just around the time that you start caring about how the world really works.

🤔that’s true.

And start to understand how the world really works. It takes time

You are the fourth person saying this to me 🤔 in my whole life

Hell, I’m 47 and starting all over again. Starting at beginning on something this cool is what makes life worth living!

2 reasons

1. Being truly good at programming take time. It’s not the same as finding a job in big tech where you literally just do leetcode and know nothing about real programming

2. Nostr also represents a set of values that can only be truly understood once you’re 30, when you see enough shits of the society but still young enough to believe that yourself can make a difference.

Thanks for your answer! At the beginning I’m worried to be considered as impolite. But you guys response with kindness and insight!

If you worried that calling out somebody over 30 is impolite, you worried too much. It’s just a fact and Nostr, different from centralized media, likes to do fact based discussion. Plus 30s is usually better than 20s if you managed to build your life and take responsibilities.

I think my friend is partly blocked by those talented programmer media articles. Real programming takes time

What is a talented programmer media? Do you mean that your friends read the stories of so called genius programmers and were discouraged? It’s possible to achieve a lot in theoretical math and physics for a young person. But almost impossible for any serious engineering. Engineering consists of many details.

Yes that’s exactly what I mean.

I think it is a bias though. Media like the story of young and successful.

And if the target is successful(in a society level), it is always easy to be discouraged.

Nostr gives me a very very good change to watch closely that how brilliant developers work. Byte by byte, step by step.

I'm 70 and I still think I can make a difference. :-P

>From: (WaterBlower) at 04/27/23 08:00:56 on wss://relay.damus.io

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>2 reasons

>1. Being truly good at programming take time. It’s not the same as finding a job in big tech where you literally just do leetcode and know nothing about real programming

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>2. Nostr also represents a set of values that can only be truly understood once you’re 30, when you see enough shits of the society but still young enough to believe that yourself can make a difference.

😝respect! While I always have a question for you sir. Do you need a special screen? Or you are natural born with good eyes.

My glasses work quite well. I keep the font size pretty small on all three of my screens.

>From: Sherry<-cameri at 04/27/23 08:23:07 on wss://relay.damus.io

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>😝respect! While I always have a question for you sir. Do you need a special screen? Or you are natural born with good eyes.

🫡🫡🫡🫡

And you definitely make great difference!😍We all love you uncle 😁

I read your book Clean Architecture and that’s the book that introduced me the fundamentals of software engineering that were never taught in school. I then read extreme programming and things. However I am reflecting on Clean Architecture and have felt the shortcomings over the years and am forging my own physiology. You are truly my mentor on this journey. Clean Architecture is the book I recommend all my junior developers to read.

Learn, unlearn, relearn and reborn with original ideas.

When I’m 70 someday, I too want to ride a boat and fly a plane. And help people who are struggling. And create global positive impact. It’s so amazing what you do! Btw there’s probably 3 generations of people on Nostr!

this is inspiring🤙🫂

Turns out you can program a lot of trash real quick but look real clever. Real software plays out in the long term and people only seem to learn the hard way.

I would know. I am learning the hard way.