Replying to Avatar Melvin Carvalho

Two levels of censorship-resistance are emerging via open protocols. One is the dns-censorship-resistance model (nostr et al 2020) which is the same model as the current web w/ replication, and subject to take downs.

The second model is the bittorrent-censorship reistance model of the web (pkarr, pubky et al c. 2025) which seems to be holding its own, even against take down requests.

It's trivial to upgrade users to offer both level of censorshp-resistance for nostr devs. And it will be interesting to see which clients are the first upgrade their censorship resistance, and which are the last.

I think we're moving from a first gen nostr which was a proof of concept. To a second gen which actually is verifiably censorship resistant and is scale free. Exciting!
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Silberengel 9mo ago

Isn't that something a relay could implement, on the backend? Clients just display stuff and sign notes.

Relays are the servers and could just act as hubs, for different networks. Relaying everything to wherever.

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Silberengel 9mo ago

I mean, isn't that one of the strengths of Nostr, that nobody else has effectively implemented?

That we have these little, lightweight servers that just transmit tiny json spinnets. The websocket is the first and core implementation, but we've already added HTTP, and stuff like Bluetooth, Meshtastic, etc. Why not just add Bittorrent as another option?

Then clients have one more possible ways to connect to relays, to choose from. We don't need any consensus, so long as the data structure is interoperable, and we sign our events with the same keys.