Do you still think it's crazy to suggest that leaving Europe may be one of the only way to save ourselves?

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I live in Europe and have done for over half a decade. The key to survival is to smile politely when people say things and to ignore all the laws.

I've been here for a while too, but it's becoming clear the 'rulers' are going to make it very uncomfortable to be here unless you are the stereotypical normie.

And even they may start to question things, but that's much further down the line.

I don't have a problem with leaving with my family when the time comes... if anything starts affecting me. Until then I'm happy to remain checked out of the system while enjoying the many good things. In theory I'd also be willing to defend Europe against both Europeans and invaders and restore it... should an opportunity to do so arise.

It's definitely worth at least considering

I have mentally prepped to up and leave if the time comes. Even if it never comes to that

Me too

Go east. Continually until you arrive where you started. Then go east again

East Europe and Asia both good options 🙏🤝

Yep, it’s that time in history again, when Europeans better leave EU/UK. The time to leave Norway is already past. You can stay in Switzerland so far.

If you’re in EU/UK you can leave now and sell whatever you cannot move and take your wealth with you, or wait and maybe flee with your BTC only.

Or wait even longer then you’ll stay trapped in your 15’ City.

Your choice, always has been.

I always ask out of interest where people would go where the same wouldn't happen. I also wonder why it wouldn't be better to defend your homeland rather than flee it.

South, probably. At least there I can have access to guns to defend myself should the need arise. Sure everywhere will have a different set of issues, but underdeveloped countries don't have the infrastructure or level of coordination to spy on every aspect of our lives the same way as Europe does.

I'm not even sure what I consider my homeland anymore. Born in SA, heritage and family is Polish, but I live in the UK.

If there were more patriots here I would support them, but it seems that I, a guest here, am more concerned about where things are headed than the people native to this region.

My southern hemisphere safe space has a different set of difficulties, though violence is a new one thanks to Venezuelan migrants. We'll see where that leads. My European safe space is a laid-back monocultural crime free little paradise.

I'm very comfortable with being a polite guest when dealing with the statist and communist majority day to day, it's a delight coming across patriotic types though. Guest or not, the whole continent belongs to me in a broader sense and I'd like to see it saved even if doing so would make me a bad guest in many NPC eyes.

South within or outside Europe?

There is no patriotism left in Europe. That, and many countries have a disarmed citizenry. Both things make a defence against the globalists/bureaucrats/socialists improbable in my view.

AND rampant global dumbing of the masses doesn’t help either.

I totally feel you on the “what is my homeland” question. As a Christian my homeland is this entire planet after the second return of Christ. Before that I am a refugee in an alien world, as have been millions of Christian’s in history.

Outside Europe. Maybe a revolution will change course, but I don't see a positive future on this continent if this continue trending the way they have been.

The reality is I - we - are demonised no matter where we go. White man bad, Christians bad. Even though I don't subscribe to a religion, the agenda against Christians is as obvious as the agenda against white people.

You have a very strong argument there. Maybe to fight is the only option left.

Exit taxes will get implemented and it will only be harder to leave in the future, as they desperately try to discourage people with money from fleeing. It's already too late, I know a number of well off people who have already left or are in the process.

I generally see these types of things as good. Whether exit taxes or currency controls or savings confiscation. Nothing wakes people up better than a personal kick in the face. Look at COVID, our numbers at least doubled after that. They had also doubled previously in 2007/8.

Yes! Exit taxes and digital Euro! Worse, if you are a military age man, you could even be thrown into some stupid war.

I am prepared to sit in a prison. If they give me a gun to go fight, they will be the ones I turn the gun on.

Your courage is admirable and good.

But ask yourself what are you going to prison for, what are you going to fight for in a gun fight?

I would go to prison, if it honours my Lord Jesus. I would fight a gun fight to defend my family against a criminal. But for a nation state? Look at history, countries rise and fall, some vanish into oblivion. If your country is a beacon of freedom, go and fight. If nobody fights for freedom, freedom ceases immediately. Sadly the UK has left the path of freedom and embraced socialism/greenism.

Up until 2020 I genuinely had no idea how I would react to tyranny. I am a completely different person than I was 5 years ago, and kind of surprised by that.

I'm not sure I would fight for a state, but I would stand with people who oppose tyranny - regardless of what religion they subscribe to.

“I would stand with people who oppose tyranny - regardless of what religion they subscribe to.”

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Man I love your values 👍

You should check out Switzerland, I think you would like it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wnBDK-QNZkM&pp=ygUQc3dpdHplcmxhbmQgZ3Vucw%3D%3D

If every man did what he personally believed to be right regardless of convenience, none of this would be possible

(I mean this in a good way)