As a Bitcoiner for 15 years I can tell you that those that are in it for the fiat gains, the censorship/banning and the non critical thinking, not realising how competition between Monero and Bitcoin is good for both are NEITHER Bitcoiners nor cypherpunks.
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I have seen it over and over again that statists (unfortunately there are many these days in Bitcoin) are afraid of new ideas and projects that actually deliver valuable stuff.
Becoming a statist is a warning sign that someone got out of touch with life itself and now relies on propaganda, (self-) censorship and in the states case extraction of value from others under violence.
Think my reply got lost due to bad connection. Damn.
Lost me a bit on connection to statism, but agree the culture is a bit closed minded regarding interacting with "monero people." It's tiresome, not to mention embarsssing by proxy how often a self proclaimed maxi charges in with weak grasp of technicals and resorts to shouting down when they realize they are out of their depth.
Anyway, nice to meet you. Send me a bitcoin, you have so many 🙏