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“I don’t mind what happens”, Krishnamurti said, then he followed, “I am not attached to any outcome.”

If I have an ideology then I am attached to a particular outcome. I have an ideal in my mind and I want to make society conform to my ideal. But what if I see that this whole way of thinking is wrong?! I give up ideals! I refuse to even discuss what I ‘think’ society should look like.