Yeah I agree. I think property ownership being a necessity probably kept things pretty balanced here. I think we were largely taught "women couldn't vote" was a trick. I view it more of there was a vote per household. But yeah between opening voting up to everyone and then flooding the country with all sorts of people that can't comprehend the basis of the country let alone agree with the values things seemed to get out of control fast.

I was really only teasing about your answer. I think no government is a decent goal. I just don't think it's an option because we have strayed so far from the original meaning of what a nation is. But I guess does an anarchical society even consider itself a nation? I mean would there be a border? Would anyone be free to come and go or does everyone have to agree on the format and function of things? I don't know I'm riffing