> I'm not an expert on ActivityPub, and I don't think associative guess-arguing by comparing all the things is very productive.

fair point, I'll grant you that.

> 1. In Pubky, you choose how much you want to trust in how you apply and use the system. It's all backstopped by the fact that you control your own public key domain. From there you can make any sort of system you want, sign everything, dont sign anything, run mirrors and data watchtowers, there's nothing stopping anything, it's just a new web, thanks to self-sovereign DNS.

Ok, so then what you are building is essentially a (slightly different) version of freenet, and perhaps i2p (tho mostly freenet). It's a good thing the world needs, and I completely support both of those projects, and perhaps your too, but this doesn't compete to nostr, you are solving different problems.

> 2. This is nonsense, ALL servers are permissioned, whether its relays or homeservers or hosted or self-hosted.

we are talking past each other. both things can be true at the same time. I will just grant that servers are permissioned, because it doesn't hurt my argument in the lsightest.

> Pubky handles application use cases by supporting modular indexers. Choose or create an index, and if you ever wanna verify the data, check the source homeserver.

and how is this more decentralized than nostr exactly?

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Well, it competes with nostr in that it can do everything it does and more, right?

We use literally the most decentralized and proven network in the planet, that is how:

https://medium.com/pubky/mainline-dht-censorship-explained-b62763db39cb

> We use literally the most decentralized and proven network in the planet

Sure Mainline DHT is certainly decentralized, no disagreement there, use it literally almost every day for... huh... "Linux ISOs"

> Well, it competes with nostr in that it can do everything it does and more, right?

I'm not sure about that. On one hand, sure, it can do a lot of what people are using nostr for today, on the other hand, you know what the best use case for this technology is in my opinion? Running nostr relays. Yes, I'm completely serious about this.

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Agree.