Really hard to argue about ICE.
Because everyone needs secret police with unlimited powers that prosecute people based on their skin colour.
Not
I've been wrong about something and I'd like to show you what I've been wrong about. If you do not wish to see violence don't click the link I'll be posting below.
Due to recent discussions about ICE agents in Minneapolis (wearing masks, because that's somehow the worst part of the events... 🙄), I've been poking about the most infamous incident lately: the shooting of the woman driving the Honda pilot.
I broadly believed reports that the woman had hit the agent with her vehicle. If that was the case, it's clear cut self-defense.
However, on further review, this does not seem to be the case. As such, I have changed my opinion based on more facts and deem the actions of the agent to be outside the bounds of self defense and would label this as murder.
The video floating around, and that I've posted here on nostr showing a clear hit has been fairly certainly found to be a fabrication.
Below, you'll find a link to reddit. I know, I know... but it contains a video that is compiled and synced from videos that do seem to be legitimate, and they clearly show malice of forethought by the agent in question as he drew his weapon before the woman had turned her wheels to move her vehicle.
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q71k0w/all_angles_of_minneapolis_ice_shooting_synched/
As such, the agent broke with all known SOPs regarding firing at a "fleeing vehicle" thus, IMO, is guilty of murder, at least until I am presented evidence otherwise.
That being said, it doesn't change my opinion on:
-Agents wearing face coverings
-ICE is doing a job that is necessary as long as there are national borders and unwelcome, criminal miscreants
-Ending the welfare state will solve nearly all of these issues without the descent into martial law
-Agents of the government operating with carte blanche immunity will only be emboldened to do more of this
So, I was wrong, evidently, about this particular shooting which I will call a murder now. That's fine. (Me being wrong, not the murder.) I'm still open to discussing it and being presented with other evidence on either side. I'd even appreciate it.
Discussion
What is secret about ICE?
They aren't prosecuting people on their skin color. They are prosecuting them on fraud and other criminal charges. In some areas, the people committing fraud en masse happen to have the same skin color. Oh no. Anything but that. 🙄
Well I guess they must be running out of excuses to meet the arrest quota.
What arrest quota?
I think it’s 3k daily or something like that
But you probably know more about ICE than I
In some ways I might.
If they are behind on 3k a day, they certainly are slacking. It doesn't have to be that hard to bag and tag that many people a day with the amount of resources available to them. So we will see, as time always tells.
ICE is also one of the few agencies where a lot of the staff are from racial and ethnic minorities. The ICE agent is being painted as some sort of rabid white supremacist, in the media, but he's married to a Filipina.
Imagine that . . . He must be so racist. heh
So?
*shrugs*
Just an aside in this. Nothing of true import except to those that view race as a driving factor in . . . well, anything, I suppose.
His whole family has had to go into hiding. So much for "peaceful protestors".
Yup.
Hence the masks.
Which is why that doesn't make me mad, as I would do the same thing.
*sighs* This all sucks.
Sucks
I agree
I am all for deporting from all americas all immigrants and their children
Starting form year 1500 (just for the round number)
It’s all fucked up
(I would maybe exempt those brought by force)