Nostr Web Client

That's typical FOSS, tho.

Developing products that have no target customer and then try to drum up enthusiasm after the fact and act annoyed when nobody responds.

Luxferre 1y ago

There's no fundamental problem with FOSS.

There is a problem with the modern pandemic that (regarding software) started back in 1990s, I guess. When megacorps began turning art into "products" as a part of their anti-individuality vision.

People also got used to "products" instead of engineering artworks. And now, whenever they essentially look at a Jacquet Droz automaton, they expect it to perform like a Teslabot. Of course, not even realizing that Teslabot is mostly vaporware.

The true art and the remaining hope for the software world now lies at the intersection of FOSS and demoscene. Doing this for your own amusement, as optimized as you can, making it work on the weakest hardware, not being bothered that some square-minded rookies can't read what you write, and sharing your knowledge with the rest of the world, for those who can and do understand and appreciate it.

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Laeserin 1y ago

That's like creating a beautiful chair that no one can sit in. That's art, but I'll buy my chair elsewhere.

Luxferre 1y ago

Who said it's for sale in the first place?

There are many things in this world that are not supposed to be monetized yet still remain useful.

Of course, if you're talking solely about Nostr clients, it's very far away from art. Starting with the protocol itself.

Laeserin 1y ago

LOL the chatbot is always on the side of whoever is disagreeing with me.

Laeserin 1y ago

I said, specifically, that these are FOSS projects that are meant to be products.

Development, not research.

Luxferre 1y ago

Could you give a particular example of the project you're talking about?

Laeserin 1y ago

Amethyst.

Luxferre 1y ago

Amethyst is a product (as in a consequence, not in a sense of market goods) of the exact newspeak-induced vision I was talking about. It will only remain fully FOSS as long as it can lure enough people to eventually make it a product (in a sense of market goods). Afterwards, some dubious binary blobs, ads and "premium features" are inevitable. To sum it up, it's the absolute opposite of the artwork I was talking about. And again, it's not a problem of the FOSS model itself that some people use it this way.

Maybe I'll dedicate my next phlog post to this entire question, there's too much to say about it.