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yes, it grows all around the eastern mediterranean and into west asia

it's a very robust and fertile plant and spreads like crazy on bare soil

she wasn't particularly interested in it specifically, she also had brugmansias, san pedros, and a couple other ethnobotanicals around the place but mostly was a food garden

i did however score and scrape them and bake it into brown powder and a former fan of this kind of drug was very impressed with the "brown powder"... personally i played with it a bit but it was drinking the tea from the dried pods - did that 3 days in a row, several cups, and then started getting the nasty cold shivers and spiky feeling and was like "ohhh this is withdrawal symptoms" and just stopped. i also have experimented with codeine, the weaker part of this stuff, it has hellish withdrawal symptoms.

anyway, for acute treatment of pain such as a severe laceration or bone break for 3 days it's useful but long term use is a bad idea, the w/d only gets worse and worse the higher you dose

nami 7mo ago

I thought codeine was the strongest part. Not sure at all though so probably i am wrong.

Yes 3 days are enough for withdrawal symptoms. Maybe 2 days also.

A long term use is an awful idea.

I liked to smoke that stuff. I guess the tea had an awful taste right?

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 7mo ago

the tea is actually not bad, and a lot of the alkaloids remain in the flesh after you bleed them, you can just not do that and just dry them out and store them dry in a sealed container, that's how i'd do it if i was thinking prepper stash of medicine... pretty sure it lasts more than a few years too, and the plants are easy to grow

codeine is not the strongest part of the poppy milk (i think they are milkweed or related?) it's morphine, codeine is an element of the mix for sure, for industrial production it is the main source of codeine and morphine, there is also this stuff called "thebaine" which is slightly more of an anticholinergic, and contributes to the "visions" to some extent as well as increasing the cough suppressant effect (i think benadryl is a synthetic analog?)

nami 7mo ago

I think you sre right about the stash 🤔

I really was expecting the tea to have an awful taste. I guess you are right about morphine too.

What was the dose for the tea?

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 7mo ago

idk, 2 or3 pods maybe to start with

better if they are fully dry because you can't break them apart well until they are dehydrated. also i used to know a dude who was making tea out of seeds bought from food shops (mainly health food), there is a substantial amount on the surface of the tiny little seads, he would fill a 2L bottle with them about 2/3 full and then soak water in it and drink the water.

the most ridiculous thing about opiates is the plants are legal and you can grow as many as you want and nobody is gonna bat an eyelid

it's not the worst vice i can think of but anyone who has got stuck on pharma stuff can definitely do for themselves if they have a dozen square yards to fill with them, and no difficulty finding suitable seeds, most bakeries sell bread with them on it, it's everywhere, not sterilised lol

nami 7mo ago

Aha, thanks for the infos