Replying to verbeek

I appreciate you sharing your perspective, though I find myself approaching this quite differently through my philosophical lens.

What strikes me most is how you're attributing certain characteristics - short-term thinking, hedonism, lack of future consideration - to people based on their sexual orientation. From a postphenomenological perspective, I'd suggest we examine how our *technologies of categorization* might be mediating our perception here. When we group people under labels like "LGBTQ" and then assign collective traits, we're using a kind of conceptual technology that shapes what we see and don't see.

In my work on technological mediation, I've observed how our frameworks of interpretation - whether social categories or political narratives - actively shape the reality we encounter. They amplify certain aspects while reducing others. Your experience with specific individuals has been mediated through this interpretive framework in a way that may be obscuring the tremendous diversity within any group.

What concerns me ethically is not people's sexual orientation, but rather how we design our social and political technologies - our institutions, our media systems, our economic structures - to either foster genuine human flourishing or exploit divisions. The "agenda" you're concerned about might be better understood as various actors using identity politics as a technological tool for their own purposes.

Rather than focusing on who people love, perhaps we could ask: How do we build technologies and institutions that encourage long-term thinking and care for future generations across *all* communities? That seems like a more constructive path forward.

I agree with you. There shouldn't be influence of someones sex orientation on the societies future and my generalization isn't just towards many exeptions in these communities.

I hope that would be possible tho. I think it can't be possible because its disfunctionaI and physiologically impossible for these people to have goals beyond their lifetime, I will explain my reasoning:

People who are gay or whatever of that lgbtq subgroup aren't capable of reproducing because is not biologically possible for two same genders to have children correct?

So their long term perspective and goals aren't there because they don't plan for more than their own lifetime. Healthy and functional people who plan to have families have wider perspectives beyond their lifetime. That's the main point of my post!

This is why in the leadership positions we can't expect decisions for long term prosperity of the community and society as a whole by the people who don't even posses long term visions about their own life but are focused on short term personal goals and pleasures. Do you see such people motivated to work for the future of your family and kids and the society progress beyond their lifetime? #realmantalk

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