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You should use P2P exchanges whenever you can but I'm afraid the "no bitcoin onramps, only fiat offramps" reality is increasingly true.

In the medium to longterm it won't matter that you operate with lower-value transactions because they keep moving the threshold lower to demand ever more burdensome kyc info for transactions.

Moreover, you will have to deal with sudden account freezes and transaction cancellations if you keep sending money to strangers. It's just a reality of this model, one that cannot be mitigated.

Since the financial surveillance system is increasingly consolidated into one big honeypot, you will not be able to escape with multiple bank account tactics.

One solution is to coinjoin funds or do atomic swaps but that does not erase kyc data. It is a suboptimal solution.

I see three real solutions that remain for freedom-minded people to acquire kyc-free sats:

- Mine bitcoin in a non-kyc way

- Exchange fiat and goods face to face

- Work for it

...and of course you should keep most of your funds in Self-Custody. Maybe some on LN(LSP model makes it easier) and pocket money in #ecash mints.

Realistically you will rarely do option 1 and 2. Working for sats is the best solution and it will bootstrap a freedom economy of Sovereign Individuals.

The best way to get this freedom economy going is in my mind obviously nostr. That's why I am building #satshoot and keep supporting this ecosystem any chance I get.

This is my thesis. What's yours?

#asknostr #kyc #privacy

World class take.. operation choke point is definitely not over - that fiat money they think is worth something plus they want control..

Sometimes living in a 3rd world country has it’s benefits as it takes 10-15 years for the same rules to apply.

I feel sorry for people getting into BTC now in the USA and Europe - it’s genuinely so impractical and time consuming hence they mostly just give up and move on.

Fiat mine by day

BTC mine by night (zaps on NOSTR and literally mining with free energy and bandwidth)

#bitcoin

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Bisq still works quite well for now. Transfers to strangers are quite common across Europe.

Just looked at it… for a newbie it’s complicated as hell but suppose if it’s the only way then you learn - maybe where I’m from we’ve been blessed with incredible UX for BTC buying with very minimal KYC bullshit…