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the conclusion of your first paragraph contradicts your first statement. let's not play games with grammar here.

secondly if you can say something is x then of course you would be able to explain why. It's a logical necessity.

Please actually type out what you refer to as "the conclusion of my first paragraph" and what you refer to as my "first statement". As it is, you are making it unnecessarily difficult to determine whether you have actually read anything I've written.

Earlier you asked me to explain how I know "shallow and worthless sex". Now you seem unsurprised that I "would be able to explain why." Have I addressed your question about shallow and worthless sex?

Also, to address your other comment about my usage of the word grooming, I agree. The idea that talking to someone could ever take away someone's free will or make a person solely responsible for the other's actions is completely bunk, whether it gets called grooming, brainwash, or the devil's whisper.

The reality is that any kind of communication requires engagement from both sides. Plenty of boys would realize how fucked up sex with a man is all on their own, and would require brutality in order for the man to be able to have sex with them. A man can't groom a boy into making a mistake unless the boy's naivety aligns with the man's message and unless the boy uses that message to come to his own false conclusions.

Really when a boy and a man have sex, the sex is bad all on its own. There's nothing inherently wrong with grooming and there doesn't need to be any brutality for the sex to be bad.

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whether sex is shallow and worthless is a decision that is the sole right of the participants.

this is not for other people to judge, or take the next step of saying that people who make that decision are morally inferior

No, I definitely don't see it as a moral issue. Whether a boy or a man choose to completely fuck up their own lives is a purely social issue in my eyes.

Now I would like to make a direct assertion here, but I can't for the life of me tell whether you are an antisocial freak or whether there's something I haven't considered here. If whether sex is worthless is the decision solely of the participants, then is it ever reasonable for someone to get the perspective of their friend on whether having sex with another person would be shallow or worthless?

And if whether sex is worthless is the decision of the participants, is it possible for one of the participants to conclude after the fact that they made a huge mistake, and that they made an objectively bad decision choosing to have sex previously? And if you asked that person, do you believe it's possible they would give reasons for their conclusion that would be relevant for anyone in a similar context?

These cases all seem very reasonable to me. The only time I can see someone denying all these cases is if they were insecure about when they choose to have sex, and didn't want people to challenge their opinions. What did you mean when you said the decision is the right of the participants?

I guess instead of saying its a "social issue", it would be more accurate to call it a personal mistake. The social issue is the fact that we should say something and try to give people information and options to avoid that mistake.