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It seems to me that most people don't want to hold the risk that the provided labor will ultimately lead to satisfied and paying customers, that's why they demand to be paid upfront.

Start a business and you might learn a thing or two.
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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

Employees would still be paid upfront. But companies would be ran democratically and for the benefit of the people that work there, not the owner/investors. My point is that the owners don't contribute anything, yet they get to decide the roadmap and earn a lot of money. And when they want to maximize profits, they underpay their workers.

I wouldn't have a problem with companies chasing profits if I knew the profits went to benefit the people that provide value, the actual workers, you know? But unfortunately, today the extra revenue goes to the useless owners/investors, who often can't even be trusted with that much money, Musk being an easy example.

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Max 11mo ago

Start a company and tell me you don't contribute anything.

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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

The owner's payout is not proportionate to the amount of work or value created by the them. And I mean sometimes the owner doesn't even do anything.

Look at Musk - dude just tweets all day while owning 3 companies and being in charge of a government agency.

So many people work at his companies and yet he and the investors get so much money. It could be better

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Max 11mo ago

Did you ever start or own a business?

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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

Yeah and I still think the current hierarchy of businesses is both immoral AND inefficient (co-ops are more productive).

Had to do a lot of mental gymnastics to keep convincing myself that I deserved all the money I was getting.

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rado1 11mo ago

Oh. Nost is attracting commies...

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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

No it's not. Nostr is all fascists and grifters. I wish though

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rado1 11mo ago

I have expected (by your posts) you are a commie. Thanks for the clarification.

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dea2df5c... 11mo ago

You are like those people who when hear hear "crypto" start thinking about $HAWK and think it's a scam.

You hear me criticizing the authoritarian nature of corporations, and all you can think of is planned economy (I know planned economies don't work).

"Commie" is a very vague term which nowadays covers both North Korea AND free lunch in school. It is useless at this point.

We can have worker co-ops and social safety nets while having a democracy and human rights

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rado1 11mo ago

Your argument by "Labor Theory of Value" tells a lot...