Nah. This is cherry picking the examples to fit the narrative you are pushing and building a strawman argument on top of it.

The old buildings that were built/designed poorly didn't survive.

There are many great modern buildings that are build to last and respect the surroundings. Maybe in the US there are many cardboxes masquerading as buildings but in europe (for example, because that's what I know) a lot of "the new stuff" will be here for centuries to come unless some disaster strikes it down.

It is valid to say you much prefer the old (style).

It is valid to criticize the modern stuff, and there is a lot to criticize, just when you generalize too much, it is just a strawman. Be better.

I like both. I like clever and simple designs that work for the purpose they were designed for. I like modern buildings (or renovations) built in organic medieval european urbanism context. I'd rather live in a *great* modern building, than in an old one (again, speaking about european context and climate).

I dislike most of the 20th century urbanism. It is interesting intellectually, when applied on limited scale it is even interesting and nice to be in. But on the scale that it was deployed all over the world, often in a very lazy/stupid way it is hard not to generalize here.

I also like (and this is controversial around here) a few select brutalist buildings. The ones that make you go "wtf is this crazy dystopic movie set I'm walking through rn?". Few 🤔🫣🤣😂

I also like the old pre 20th century stuff, who doesn't? Just some of it is a bit boring when it's everywhere around you.

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I agree with you, and I didn't want to generalize as of course not everything built now is made to be ugly and rotten soon.. probably I should have express it better.

Ugly old buildings that don't exist more, do not also because there was no point in making refurbishment of them since they have no "value" or were not beautiful enough in most cases.

Yes I do agree that luckily in Europe we still can see new projects, infrastructurs and buildings that are not a punch in an eye, and that's probably because it comes from a different culture we live in and are constantly immersed in old architecture, or at least much more often and old than in US for example.

Anyway my comment was more toward the opinion I have about "how" the new structure and architecture are built, so like the materials utilized, and that generally the trend is the one about pushing down the costs and speeding up the production.. but again, this doesn't mean I think everything is made that way. What I am saying is that in this kind of economy to build long lasting and beautiful things needs a vision and projects made for the purpose of creating something "valuable" and not just creating to make fast profits and increase some number in the economy. But again I am not saying this is the only way things are built now.

👍 btw my comment was meant in general, not personally at you.

Don't worry I didn't take it personal, your was a constructive comment indeed 🤙🫂

Both of these seem to be well build and they will last for many decades if taken a good care of.

Both of them are very closed off. In case of the country house the other sides are most probably more open and the house itself *could* be quite good and reacting a lot to the surroundings (where you look, who sees you, where the sun is...).

The other example doesn't look very appealing and it is hard to give it any slack, it might be ok inside, but unless it is some kind of special atelier or a (sound/youtube/photo) studio, this just doesn't make much sense and it's not interesting in any way.

Ugly is the word I would use.

Yeah, these two things I can judge them just by this look, since it's hard even to understand the material, and they are not just ugly, they are fucking ugly. 😅