this is why we can't have more people charging for relays

how do we know the implementation is even secure anyway?

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i mean for users not the fucking relay operator

and actually, my bigger gripe is that this means that gating access to privileged data between parties like DMs and application specific data continues to be an easily abused surveillance vector

and i don't want to hear about how simplex solves this because it doesn't

that's cope

What are you on about? We know it is secure because the relays are not trusted third parties.

Everything is public in nostr except DMs, which a e2ee. And everything is signed, so the relays can't do anything more than just not relay messages.