that they dont have a main goal is the main problem and main descriptor of the cohorts.

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most of them think that #bitcoin was made for them, personally, by G d.

LITERALLY - even if atheist !

Im sure they do - earning fiat. But whether they pushing to keep bitcoin unchangeable or towards more centralised, im still not sure yet, ive never met them, so harder to gauge if they just grifting

its not that hard dude. they are shitty fucking men like the rest.

you ever poked around the old logs at bitcoin-assets? its really the only place to get your bearings.

I need to spend more time there

any serious bitcoiner would... bitcoin-assets became later the trilema irc and MP was shuttled away to New Swabia .... then it was asciilifeform and his later nosuchlabs logs where the fallout remains but is quite muted these days...

Do u have some links?