Gul Madred: I remember the first time I ate a live taspar. I was six years old and living on the streets of Lakat. There was a band of children, four, five...six years old—some even smaller, desperately trying to survive. We were thin, scrawny little animals, constantly hungry, always cold. We slept together in doorways, like packs of wild gettles, for warmth. Once I found a nest. Taspars had mated and built a nest in the eave of a burned-out building. And I found three eggs in it. It was like finding treasure. I cracked one open on the spot and ate it, very much as you just did. I planned to save the other two. They would keep me alive for another week. But of course, an older boy saw them and wanted them. And he got them. But he had to break my arm to do it. Jean-Luc Picard: Must be rewarding to you to...to repay others for all those years of misery. Gul Madred: What do you mean? Jean-Luc Picard: Torture has never been a reliable means of extracting information. It is ultimately self-defeating as a means of control. One wonders it is still practiced. Gul Madred: I fail to see where this analysis is leading. Jean-Luc Picard: Whenever I look at you now, I will not see a powerful cardassian warrior; I will see a six-year-old boy who is powerless to protect himself. Gul Madred: Be quiet! Jean-Luc Picard: In spite of all you have done to me, I find you a pitiable man. Gul Madred: Picard, stop it. Or I will turn this on and leave you in agony all night! Jean-Luc Picard: Aha! You called me "Picard!" Gul Madred: What are the Federation's defense plans for Minos Korva? Jean-Luc Picard: There are four lights! "Star Trek: The Next Generation: Chain of Command, Part II [6.11], Season 6"