Dont forget an important fact that Jack funds nostr to the tune of about 1 million dollars a month just to keep the lights on. Without that, you would see a very different situation. That is a central point of failure right there, that cannot be wished away.
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Oh wow I didn’t realize he is doing this monthly, what a an OG 🏆
Its completely false
Is it? How much has Jack donated to Open Sats nostr fund alone? (I honestly don’t know, but wouldn’t be surprised if it was 10+ Million)
nostr needs maybe a couple thousand dollars a month to keep the lights on. Clients already exist and running relays is insanely cheap. Damus will keep working even money runs out. You can’t say the same about bluesky
The problem is software is not static and cannot be
You need to update it as the userbase scales and the environment changes, if that was not true, we could just not have NostrDB and still use Branle
You also forgot the human cost of operating servers and the gap in user count
I would not believe Nostr is cheaper to operate on a per user basis with little emphasis on cost and performancd optimization and redundant infrastructure.
Why not? What’s fundamentally different about Bluesky’s architecture that makes it more expensive to run?
I think about 56m but about half goes to btc. I would expect another 21m in march. Let's see.
If we’re talking about OpenSats, then I think there are 2 separate funds. Of course there are some projects that could qualify for BTC and NOSTR, but from what I’ve seen they don’t tend to give e.g Nostr clients grants from the BTC fund.
It's paid annually $21mm a year to open sats + more to other places.
You can average it to about $1mm a month. Folks could deny this, or that it makes a big impact on nostr. But that is not a serious argument.
This doesn't seem correct. $5M in 2023. $5M in 2024. $10M in total since may 2023. Over 18 months. That would be $555K a month on average. But that would be if it's all spent as of today. We know that's not the case though since grants are paid out over the course of a year or several years in some cases. It's far, far less, IMO.
Yeah that is a great point. Centralization of a different kind
im honestly starting to think you’re legitimately redarded.
He might have a point except the money is being spent poorly.
NOSTR development is laughably inefficient. If there wasn't so much money available, devs would actually have to cooperate and focus instead of building garbage on top of garbage on top of garbage, before scrapping that and building new garbage.
I don't think much of that money is dedicated to hosting regardless, though. I think most people hosting relay and media servers are just doing it out of pocket. It's probably not an overly expensive thing to do at NOSTR's size.
im sorry, i feel asleep while you were talking. what?
1 million per month? so it would be like 20 million so far just for nostr? who is getting all that money?