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Exactly.

And obviously the US healthcare system has its own set of very real issues, but in the majority of the western world, there is a private health insurance system that also has subsidies for the poor which ensure everyone has equal access.

And the state doesn't need to run anything.

These countries (Switzerland, Germany, pretty much all of Europe) have healthcare systems so superior that the number of people in the UK who go abroad for surgery etc grows annually.

The reason they don't use the private system here is usually cost. Because the NHS exists, private healthcare is a luxury good in the UK. In countries where it's necessary, naturally it's cheaper.

Notably if you go to any private hospital or clinic in the UK you will see a lot of Arabs and signs in Arabic etc. Rich Arabs come to London for private healthcare all the time.

As I said, the quality of the actual doctors and nurses is not the issue. When working privately they have much less stress and much more freedom.

Why freedom? On the NHS, doctors aren't allowed to use their own judgement. They must follow government guidelines to the letter. Often these are corrupt (Big Pharma pay the government regulators to change guidelines in their favour) but they must be followed or that doc is personally liable.

Privately, the guidelines are just guidelines. Docs can treat their patients however they feel is best.

Guess which approach ends in better care?

Final point: the crazy thing is lefties want to shut down private healthcare because it's "unfair." The state has brainwashed em against their own interests. If anything they should campaign to shut down the NHS so everyone has access to the quality of care provided by private healthcare.

As my own dad said to me: if you had to use the NHS you'd be dead.

Yup.

Yep, the state doesn't need to be involved at all.

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Sorry for the wall of text, as you can probably tell I have a lot of personal experience with both systems. I have friends who experienced both systems. And I literally would be dead if I had to rely on the NHS which most of the population do. It makes me angry and sad.

No need to apologize! The shit needs to be said, and the funny thing is whenever this topic comes up between folks here and the UK, there's so much defense of the NHS it's crazy. People feel like they have to justify that their corrupt government is doing the right thing smh

Yuuuuup it is literally a cult. There's no reasoning with them. So it'll never be fixed because no one can ever criticise it.

But I'm not a politician and I don't care about my views being popular so, ahem:

THE NHS IS UTTER FUCKING SHIT FOR BOTH DOCTORS AND PATIENTS AND BUPA IS 1000000X BETTER!