If you can't know that Lincoln was shot and killed, you really can't know much of anything in history. It could all be a big lie, maybe for political reasons.

And why do you think proving something scientifically is the only real proof? Can you prove THAT by science? If not, then that claim itself is self-refuting and therefore false.

There is decent scientific proof relating to these matters anyway, but no point in going into that. I'm referring to the Shroud of Turin, which scientists have examined thoroughly, and they have not been able to scientifically debunk the miraculous claims about it.

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What I said was that trying to prove it scientifically was missing the point bro.

but I'm sure the Shroud of Turin is very convincing when you are looking for confirmation of what you already believe.

also

"you can't know Lincoln was shot and killed but I am SURE my very implausible miracle from 2000yrs ago is verified fact"

are you listening to yourself?

I am sure of both historical events. Historical evidence makes both of them plausible.