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a filter is literally an algo

When you brush your teeth, shower, do all the other prep that you do each day, that routine is an algo. Just because something is an algo doesn't automatically mean it is bad or evil. Centralized algos that allow other actors to control how you see the world, are evil. Personally controlled algos that let you properly interact with the world, whether those algos be code you run for yourself, or algos run by your brain, are necessary, and can be good.

If you think all computer algorithms are bad, try to operate while only being on public relays, and only ever looking at global. If the data feed isn't controlled, you will be overwhelmed. If it isn't controlled by you, you will also be manipulated.

I'm realizing now I might have assumed where you were going with this, and if so, my bad. Points still stand.

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royaoid 2y ago

'try operate while only being on public relays, and only ever looking at global'

i do that but with the iris algo

Seeker Erebus 2y ago

oh lol. I'd zap you if you had that set up.

nakad.ai🔱🦁🛡️🏯📿 2y ago

Technically true, I'll rephrase it, in sense of what people mean when they talk about "the algorithm", which is much more sophisticated, used on sites like twitter, Youtube etc. which controls what people experience, based on their own data, and behavior that are manipulated without any transparency. As Seeker say, personally controlled algos are fine, but centrally controlled ones are evil. Maybe there is a better word for what I mean.

My bad.

Seeker Erebus 2y ago

No problem. We're all trying to figure out what we want in this space, and we've all been burned by the ones we're coming from. Discussion like this are likely gonna be common over the near future.

nakad.ai🔱🦁🛡️🏯📿 2y ago

By at leaast owning our identity and data, we can apply our own algorithms and make them smarter, consciously to tune the signal. That will be sick.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

Yup. Visibility algorithms are bad, because they can and will be manipulated for gains.

royaoid 2y ago

i manipulate mine all the time

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

Always best is to create your own sorting.

Lists does this and shows only the accounts you select; hence no algorithm.