if you consider they were all jewish back then (all semites, in the end)… then karnage has a (pretty legit) point.

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Not denying any of the other factors.

I just want to understand the origins of this conflict without any bias. This is hard as anything I read is already probably biased so I try to query chatgpt in multiple ways to see what it says and try to draw my own conclusions. Talking to people only clouds any fair judgment as I feel there’s so much uninformed heated exchange online. I have no skin in the game on either side and just want the facts of what events unfolded to get to where we are today.

trust me, 10 minutes ain’t enough. there’s the british/north-american issue, as you’ve pointed out, and the land invasion, millions of people displaced. there’s the us support to hamas back in the ussr days (and basically to all the modern days terrorist groups). there’s the holocaust appeal. and there’s the historical dispute for the land. if you were to read one book about it, I’d recommend parting ways by judith butler (forget bout the queerness, just read it). and there are the numbers, as I’ve recently observed: 20 palestinian deaths to 1 jewish in the last 15 years. yom kippur and nabka are also a good start to understand it.

Can’t zap you Ishak 🫤

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the address was wrong indeed, must have been some shit I did during my existencial crisis days a couple weeks ago 🤡

Of course. But I much prefer querying chatgpt because I can ask it to play the devils advocate and use anything I see there as a starting off point into other areas of interest. Simplifies and accelerates learning.

if you’re not willing to cope with bias, chatgbt is definetely the way to go — specially on devils advocate mode. butler is jewish tho. I’m half lebanese, 1/4 jewish btw, gaza itself. the distraction.

I wouldn’t call it cope 😂 just a waste of time.