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I'm tired of this crap from mainstream media. I can hear about Palestinian terrorists attacking Israel. Maybe it's time to re-visit some history facts to complete the complex picture...

https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2023/10/09/oxford-responds-to-recent-attacks-in-israel-and-gaza/

On the Oxford Palestine Society’s Instagram, they said, “the offensive launched from Gaza can only be understood in the context of Israel’s ongoing, decades long, military occupation and colonisation of Palestinian land and imposition of a system of oppression that meets the legal definition of apartheid.”

Maybe it's time to go deeper on the facts. As it often is with simplified infographics a lot of context is left out and as we all know, context is king.

1) If we truly want to understand. we cannot start in 1918 (or even worse in 1948) The entire region has a complicated history spanning literally thoushands of years and unfortunately in this particular case it is important.

2) Neither side is guilt free. Both sides have done and continue doing awful things to the other side(s).

3) For me, the blame goes mostly to the british empire and it's imperial tactics of divide and conquer. The imperial foreign policy was so successful, that we see it's effect even to this day.

4) There is no arab/muslim Palestine. Palestine was an artificial construct invented by the Roman elites after christianization of the Roman Empire. The name Palestine is derived from the name Philistines, an ancient greek nation/culture.

5) There were multiple attempts to estabilish a two state solution, pretty much always agreed to by the jews and always declined by the arabs/muslims. One of the proposals can be seen in the infographics.

6) The often talked about power inbalance in the region is not a constant. It was the other way around in the beginning of the 20th century.

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Even people not living there and with virtually no first hand experience, nor real interest, can't agree.

I'm wondering why there can't be peace. /s

I guess it's important to choose where one wishes to live (past/present/future).

I can see that some oppressors are stuck in past even though there were certain milestones reached and agreed upon, but for some reason not honored.

For example borders in central Europe has been adjusted after 2. WW. Can you imagine any of the states will try to move them?