usually for at least 4 hours right?

I use red wine, a little balsamic and shoyu

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For best results, yeah.

I like this mix as well. Use a little bit of oil, soy sauce, red wine vinegar, lemon juice, Worcestershire, Dijon, garlic and black pepper. Sometimes I'll toss in fresh herbs if I have them too.

yeah the Worcestershire and mustard make it 😋