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I'm only here for the "half a dozen artsy and techy folks" that are building the Community tools they need for themselves and their family and frens.

The Bitcoin-Twitter-Liberty-Scam-Cult use case is scaling down to (or as always been, lol) a small Community anyway. They'll need the tools too. If they realize how bad copy-pasting Twitter UX works out for 🐑 , that is.

Anthony Accioly 5mo ago

There are dozens of us. Thank you for your service, nostr:nprofile1qqs2js6wu9j76qdjs6lvlsnhrmchqhf4xlg9rvu89zyf3nqq6hygt0spzemhxue69uhku6t9dshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme03d56gx. I appreciate your efforts as well. There's very little appreciation for independent devs on Nostr, and we should be more vocal about it.

Agreed, the business model for BTC/Lightning solutions marketing to new users will eventually eat itself. And I don’t mean in Ouroboros style (at current churn rates, there’s very little money to be made from naive new users anyway).

The bad news is that with its downfall, some of the funding keeping Nostr software alive will likely disappear. The good news is that… well, there are dozens of us trying to keep Nostr alive, regardless of financial incentives.

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Silberengel 5mo ago

People keep complaining about me not being worth my Nostr salary and I don't know how to break it to them that I pay to be here. 😂

verbiricha 5mo ago

for most of us being here is a net loss financially and in terms of time that could be spent doing something else. people earning big or just earning are a minority, do people think we're all sponsored or something?

Anthony Accioly 5mo ago

Not glorifying the "broken dev on Nostr donating to other broken devs on Nostr" movement. We're quickly heading down a "soon we’re all going to starve" spiral. Circular economy my arse… 🤣

But if it helps, I’m also spending sats and money I don’t necessarily, well… """have"""" at the moment to support Nostr initiatives I believe in. I can’t ask people to do something I’m not willing to do myself (although please don't do what I do. This is not good or even sane financial advice 🤣).

And what do I get out of it? Mostly having my relays pwned by script kiddies on a semi-regular basis, lol.

Funny how the same folks willing to put so much effort into bots and attacks aren’t willing to just open a PR and patch something.

Silberengel 5mo ago

PRs are hard. 😂

I just did an external PR and he was really nice about it, but it felt a bit like a job interview.

I already have to face internal PRs every day. 🙈

Silberengel 5mo ago

Yes, they think that. There is so much hype around the grant programs, and such big-sounding numbers being thrown around, that users think we're all getting lambos. 😂

Niel Liesmons 5mo ago

We pay in time.

They in integrity.

Niel Liesmons 5mo ago

Relying on funding instead of business models, needs to go regardless. That's not bad news.

Niel Liesmons 5mo ago

I remember all the talk about sustainable businesses during SEC-01, about a year and a half ago.

Meanwhile, zero businesses and the two businesses that were present and served as "north stars" are both gone.

That's a lot of walking and talking, for very little walking the talk.

Anthony Accioly 5mo ago

VC/PE in a nutshell.

Full disclosure: I used to work for investment banks (as a techie; not front office, M&A, or anything fancy but close enough to interact with VC and PE folks). I still get a personal laugh out of all the finance bro memes here on nostr, especially when folks end up parodying the very finance culture they mock.

Add some laser eyes and a (a conveniently curated to allow him to profit from fiat) cypherpunk persona to the finance bro in a jumper meme, and you get the stereotypical Nostr VC-backed crypto bro.

The difference is mainly that some people in traditional finance are actually making money out of it.