Don’t think nostr can stay competitive if it becomes a paid only experience.
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No chance. There has to be a freemium approach.
Being wrong deprave the right to have opinions.
Nostr by its nature will always be free
There’s free
There’s v4v
Then there’s premium for extra features and services
Better said. 🫱🏻🫲🏼
There’s nothing guaranteeing that it stays free if all major clients they matter decide they will charge. Especially if relays become part of their core offering.
Yes you can fork and do free but then you’ll just fragment yourself from everyone else.
I'm ready. Haven't even set the precedent of thinking it's free. I already spend more on zaps than a reasonable subscription costs.
If people don't put their money where their mouths are, we will end up with ads, and ads are 💀
I will not tolerate ads.
Could have a world with ad sponsored relays and with user paid relays 🤷♂️
In a deflationary society with exponential technology wanting to deliver value at ever increasing speeds, all prices will trend to zero
There will be increasing competition to offer more value for less cost
Forgive me... I believe in hyperbitcoinisation 💪... and I'm a fan of #[4] 👌
This is far more of an interesting conversation than most realize. Business models completely change over time where the best are constantly innovating to provide value for users with them
winning share (and potential revenue and profits) while they do and then moving to provide more value while the previous spot they occupied moves to free.
Gotcha 👍
I think it’s would also be speeded up by the growth of complimentary technologies and social changes
E.G. with the growth of sovereign computing (Umbrel, Start9) the cost of contributing some bandwidth and disk space to the network is hidden in the cost of the node hardware and a monthly broadband subscription
For many it’ll be a privilege and an honour for others their civil duty
What would be the incentive of adding labor to provide a free service? Upsells?
I agree. The Internet started as open access to information and then was transformed into the mess we have today of advertising models and centralized companies because of the need to monetize.
The challenge is to find a way to support developers and creators that is voluntary that enough people will participate in. I think zaps make that part easier, however most people still need to be reminded to support and many creators find that uncomfortable.
I look at it like this; Patreon can ask for you and take a lot of your money while providing a terrible experience to your customers, listeners, viewers, etc. or you can produce great products and ask the people who benefit from them to send you value.
Using statements #[2] has made on NoAgenda and #[3] has made on Citadel Dispatch, the level of support in this model is typically less than ad based models. Personally I think we have to keep trying because we know what happens in the old model and it isn’t a world I want to live in.