Nostr Web Client

NIP-22 has become non-optional. It solved a real problem and was a good idea, but also it was a breaking change. A non-optional breaking change. I made this point early on, calling the other devs mavericks and juggernauts.

Now we are in the situation where gossip either doesn't see anybody's replies, or it replies to their replies with kind-1 events which I am now told is a "sin". You see, I am not allowed to ignore this NIP-22. It is non-optional.

I'm not even against this being non-optional. What I am against is not running a migration campaign... not pushing everybody to upgrade to it. I warned this situation would happen and I was ignored. So now we have this mess.

I will now upgrade NIP-22, but somebody needs to go around to all the other clients and push them all to upgrade too.

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elsat 1y ago

NIP-22 replies for longform?

For what else?

jb55 1y ago

Kind 1111 is not a kind 1 replacement

hzrd149 1y ago

NIP-22 for "other stuff", not as a replacement for kind 1

That said though as nostr matures I don't know if we can prevent these kinds of breaking changes. for every context in nostr (social, streaming, groups, etc...) there is going to be a feature set that the majority of the clients support or are working together to support and it will put pressure on the rest of the clients to support those features

hodlbod 1y ago

Coracle ignores them too, they're not intended for kind 1 replies

Mike Dilger ☑️ 1y ago

I thought the idea was to make kind-1 for root posts only, so there would be a way to efficiently download only root posts, not everything in every thread that some reader may never drill down into. There is nothing in the NIP that explains that, but the commentary on the PR is full of that idea.

hodlbod 1y ago

Yeah, that's the general idea I think, but as you mentioned it breaks kind 1 as it is today, so it shouldn't be applied to kind 1, only other similar kinds that don't have tons of legacy code attached.

Here's a PR to make that clear:

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1680

Pallab J D Goswami 1y ago

I don't know anything about these NIPs except the full form of NIP. Still I won't ignore this post. 😌😁

Mike Dilger ☑️ 11mo ago

This note no longer reflects my understanding of the situation.