Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

I spoke at a big bitcoin-adjacent company this week and one of the best questions was from someone who asked what the downsides of bitcoin adoption might be.

I always do appreciate these steelman questions, the skeptical questions, the ones where we challenge ourselves. Only when we can answer those types of questions do we understand the concept that we are promoting.

So the classic example is that in modern economic literature, "deflation is bad". This, however, is only the case in a highly indebted system. Normally, deflation is good. Money appreciates, technology improves, and goods and services get cheaper over time as they should. Price of Tomorrow covers this well. My book touches on this too, etc. The "deflation is bad" meme is still alive in modern economic discourse and thus is worth countering, but I think in the bitcoin spectrum of communities, people get that deflation is fine and good.

My answer to the question was in two parts.

The first part was technological determinism. In other words, if we were to re-run humanity multiple times, there are certain rare accidents that might not replicate, and other commonalities that probably would. Much like steam engines, internal combustion engines, electricity, and nuclear power, I think a decentralized network of money is something we would eventually come across. In our case, Bitcoin came into existence as soon as the bandwidth and encryption tech allowed it to. In other universes or simulations it might look a bit different (e.g. might not be 21 million or ten minute block times exactly), but I think decentralized real-time settlement would become apparent as readily as electricity does, for any civilization that reaches this point. So ethics aside, it just is what it is. It exists, and thus we must deal with it.

The second part was that in my view, transparency and individual empowerment is rarely a bad thing. Half of the world is autocratic. And half of the world (not quite the same half) deals with massive structural inflation. A decentralized spreadsheet that allows individuals to store and send value can't possibly be a bad thing, unless humanity itself is totally corrupted. I then went into more detail with examples about historical war financing, and all sorts of tangible stuff. In other words, a whole chapter full of stuff. I've addressed this in some articles to.

In your view, if you had to steelman the argument as best as you could, what are the scenarios where bitcoin is *BAD* for humanity rather than good for it, on net?

I don't like the idea of physical cash disappearing. I understand the future is digital payments - but a Bitcoin future means you will need to have a powered device + internet to make payments when you travel. Even 50-100 years from now, there will still be many places on Earth with bad internet coverage/restricted access and losing your phone/having it stolen may mean zero access to commerce.

If we can create a reliable physical layer of cash notes on top of Bitcoin - that could solve this issue.

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There is no reason you can't have a physical layer 2.

I like this idea, and hadn't thought of it. What would happen to the physical note though when the amount finally is settled on-chain? At some point this needs to happen, and the note no longer has value, or am I missing something?

The note issuer holds nearly equivalent value in a BTC address. I say nearly because they need to take a very very small percentage for the service.

... or they could charge a very small fee at the time of issuance or redeeming.

I meant to tag you in my main post this inspired, still figuring out mobile Nostr clients.

I understand the issuer holds the on-chain funds, but what I had visualised was notes that can be easily proven to be worth what is printed on them. So using time-locked transactions, and possibly multisig, you could have a paper note that essentially has proof of reserves via a generated identifier, and works entirely without electricity to exchange bitcoin physically without trust.

You could see the identifier, and you still have to trust the L2 software, but beyond that you would know for sure the paper is worth 1mBTC for instance. At least until expiry, which is required for the former to work.

I have not thought it all the way through but it seems possible and is what excited me as a thought experiment at least. Real physical bitcoin when there's no Internet or electricity.

Sorry for long reply 😆