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I'm on the verge of orange Pilling a "crypto-skeptic" friend he's at least curious now, but he's hung up on the "environmental impact".

I remember reading a really detailed argument which debunked the claims of environmental harm from the Bitcoin block chain, or it at least steelmaker the concept that Bitcoin will ultimately be good for green energy production.

Can anyone help a brother out as now I can't find the articles I'm looking for 😬

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First figure out what specific “environmental impact” your confused friend is thinking about, so you can very precisely debunk the nonsense at hand.

His last comment was that Bitcoin will be screwed if the carbon tax gains any ground

Can you ask them why they think that “carbon tax” will make btc screwed?

Well, I assume that it's because it's so energy intensive and he believes it is predominantly supplied by fossil fuels. He is of course mostly reading msm and although he is quite open minded he works in a trad corporate position so he's surrounded by sheeple.

I suggest figuring out the real objection. It’s difficult to provide an answer to an unclear question.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/09/26/bitcoin-breaks-through-65000-as-global-macro-factors-fuel-gains/?

An example article.

The issue I have with the typical btc mining energy article is the wrapping mining under the fiat framing “renewable” and “esg” by people with fiat incentives. The double speak could not be clearer, and this tongue twisting serves to confuse folks like your friend further.

The beauty of mining is that is a free market, unrestricted by geography domain. This means hydro in China, coal in Kentucky, flare gas in Siberia, nuclear are all available and viable, should the price be competitive.

Irregardless if e.g. the #eulag proclaims a carbon tax, local miners will do the math on maintaining or starting new operations.

If it does not work out, operators will move their revenue producing operations elsewhere. Operators will choose to start operations where it makes sense.

Amen, the double speak is real and a minefield to try and navigate. How to even begin deconditioning someone, I'm not sure, but people need to be approached with familiar words before you go and bend their world totally out of shape, before taking the pill they must be willing to follow the white rabbit 😉

Ridiculous comment

Indeed.

I don't know if its true but I read somewhere that all this AI shit is using way more energy

Point out that merely using electricity has zero carbon footprint

😅 whilst ultimately true I think it's a bit too pedantic to win the argument 🤣

Get at it. Energy cost are lowered while expanding the grid and powering more homes . Energy fuels humanity's ingenuity!

Ur fren soun dum

He's a smart guy really, he has potential but not much exposure to alternative thinking. We've all been unknowing at some point right? 🤷🏻‍♂️ It's possible that I'm one of the first people to point him outside the box. I'm not convinced it will be fruitful but we have to try right? 😅

Na I hear you. I know a few like that who when you mention "trustless" they think "I don't trust anyone with dollars tho" 🤦 Truth is you can't save everyone but we gotta do something besides just sitting and watching the ship sink. Good luck, bub.

Exactly 👍🏻

Excellent thanks! 😁

what impact?

I think he's refering to the "carbon bad" phenomena

that's the point, it's not portrayed properly imo. I have done my own research & understand load in regards to electric. i come from a hydroelectric base family and my brother went on to be a nuc sub elect. engineer. I was hoping to infer learning about this "impact". t-y YanusAtSea

Yes, there are unfortunately many misunderstandings still perpetuated regarding BTC mining power consumption. Consumption itself doesn't equal bad.

Do you follow Daniel Batten on Twatter? If not, he is a must follow. He's also here on Nostr (nostr:npub13lkyycj8s3da6fhndtj0wd6s3s2ahmq86s7wrruvzd4tnc66cgfqn4lpsy) but doesn't post as much or the same content. Probably because there is skeptic critical mass over there.

May start here: https://x.com/DSBatten/status/1806083783600312394

I follow him here but I've never been on twatter 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hi, take a look at my website where I go in to detail on this subject.

As a climate alarmist I am exstremely pro Bitcoin and take a deep dive into the subject.

https://www.bitcoinpowerconsumption.info/climate.html

Excellent, this is just the sort of material i need! Thanks 😁👍🏻