I expect my dog not to bite people.

Do you think its just too unreasonable to think that a mind that made all this and all of us wouldn't also go to great lengths to let us know who he is and why he did it?

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Idk the crowd that states "the world is meaningless and we are just specks in the universe" are denying their own logic by arguing that nothing matters.

If "nothing matters", then why voice that "nothing matters"? It DOESN'T MATTER to them.

Any retort by them should be ignored because to them, IT DOESN'T MATTER

Why not voice it? There's a sense of liberation in knowing there's no plan and that you can make your own.

its fine to have the perspective, but it means nothing to the person who is being convinced, that the person arguing for said perspective doesn't believe what they're saying themselves.

There is no room to criticize anyone because it "doesn't matter"

Ofc people that disagree on the axioms will disagree on the logical outcome.

There is plenty of room for criticism even without objective morality.

Why is there room?

Because we are social beings who often reach broad consenus about what is right and wrong even if it's not entirely objective.

But why does it matter to come to consensus?

Because if most don't recognize it as their own moral code, it's meaningless since it will not get used in pratice.

It's very reasonable from our human perspective but not at all a logical guarantee.

...what, then, guarantees logic?

What must be true in order for logic to exist at all? And BTW, we are presupposing, perhaps even proving, the existence of that something by proceeding down a logical course.

The question is semantically invalid. Logic guaeantees itself since otherwise, it could not exist.

Logic is self-existant and volitional? You're nearly there: it is also personal.

"In the beginning was the [logos], and the [logos] was with God, and the [logos] was God.. .. And the [logos] became flesh, and dwelt among us..." [John 1](https://esv.org/John+1).

"Logic is Logic, man. Logic is just self evident" 😂

"Rose is a rose is a rose"

Someone had to create the concept of a Rose, who created Logic?

Why does it matter for this discussion?