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> And there is no way to get there but a think of the children?

It is a fast way there, and efficiency is very usefl

> It is an argument designed to destroy rational thought

Rather, it is an argument to focus it
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Bill Cypher 3mo ago 💬 2

I can't tell by the level of discourse here by you and others that it definitely has not done anything to improve the technical quality of the discourse.

Not one answer for the fact that I keep posting that knots real solution is that they are making Cloudflare scanning a defacto part of Bitcoin by insisting on a solution that makes all large op_returns MARA and trusting their scanning slipstream submissions. (I'll admit I don't know for sure who they are using but the principle is the same about trusting a 3rd party black box especially proven by us not even knowing whose closed source solution they use)

Not one answer when I posted about how ocean, datum, and knots are the best way to put CSAM on chain before core 30.

Even you who I used to respect for quality technical posting about lightning are posting a multi day emotional blast without any technicals.

We all need to do better and be better. Help me start us down that path instead of being a part of the problem.

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Super Testnet 3mo ago

> Not one answer for the fact that I keep posting that knots real solution is that they are making Cloudflare scanning a defacto part of Bitcoin by insisting on a solution that makes all large op_returns MARA and trusting their scanning slipstream submissions

The knots solution does not make *any* large op_returns MARA

The knots solution simply filters large op_returns from your own mempool

If a spammer therefore submits the large op_return to MARA that is not knots' fault, and if MARA mines it, that too is not knots' fault

> ocean, datum, and knots are the best way to put CSAM on chain before core 30

How so? I am not familiar with this claim

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Bill Cypher 3mo ago

Slipstream is a path right around knots. Knots has 0 ability to keep CSAM out of the chain. That means what knots is really counting on to keep CSAM off chain is whatever screening method MARA uses for slipstream.

The mempool only thing is a dodge to avoid facing the real problem. If it gets on chain by any path every node has to serve that block from that day to the end of bitcoin. Mempool is not a real solution to the real risk.

I am the only one I have seen put together this claim. Here it is.

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